#this is not a dunk on the aj trilogy this is a dunk on APOLLO AND SIMON SPECIFICALLY

[shitpostingkats]

Animals in the Phoenix Wright Trilogy: This dog is named after the creator's real life actual dog that he loved so much he immortalized it in two different game series. This parrot is named after the owner's tragic dead fiance, who he lost right as everything else in his life began to crumble around him.

Animals in the Great Ace Attorney Duology: This cat was named in reference to a real life japanese author. This dog is named after his owner's mentor, whom she greatly looked up to and was almost like a father to her.

Animals in the Apollo Justice Trilogy: This cat is named Calico. This hawk is named Hawk.

[crypt1dcorv1dae]

Ykno we all dunk on phoenix (rightfully) for not telling Apollo and trucy about being related, or that their mom is alive, but like... To be completely fair THEIR MOM SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO TELL THEM ANYWAY and she didn't. I understand she wasn't ready, she had just started remembering everything and like... Remembering that you have TWO KIDS and LOST BOTH YOUR HUSBANDS TRAGICALLY is a lot for anyone... But she still should have told them. Which, tbh, is just a mistake on the writers' parts but we all recognize that aa5 and aa6 sucked in a lot of ways and didn't tie up ANY of the loose ends that aa4 left behind, so they really failed as sequels...

Like I love Athena but did we really need ANOTHER playable character in what was supposed to be the "Apollo justice trilogy"? Probably not. She should have gotten HER OWN GAME INSTEAD I think.

Like, if it was a choice between actually following the story AJ left unfinished and... What we actually got? Id choose the first option, sorry :/ the characters we get introduced to are fun but like they could still exist and just... Also focus on what the 4 set up AS WELL... You could have both!!!! As long as it's written well!!!!! Cus I DO still like the things they added to Apollo's backstory given we knew BASICALLY NOTHING AT ALL about him in aa4 and the idea of him being a kid who grew up in another culture and then got left in America probably growing up in foster care and having to fend for himself makes certain aspects of Why He Is Who He Is even more compelling... So yeah id love to keep that aspect but ... Just add in... Also the other things...

[seventhstar]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: 逆転裁判 | Gyakuten Saiban | Ace Attorney Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Characters: Naruhodou Ryuuichi | Phoenix Wright, Mitsurugi Reiji | Miles Edgeworth, Ayasato Mayoi | Maya Fey, Itonokogiri Keisuke | Dick Gumshoe, Suzuki Mako | Maggey Byrde, Garyuu Kyouya | Klavier Gavin, Oosawagi Natsumi | Lotta Hart Additional Tags: Fix-It, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Phoenix Wright Kink Meme, What If It Didn't Take Seven Whole Years For Phoenix To Get His Badge Back?, miles edgeworth leaving everyone on read: the fic, Friendship Summary:

PWKM fill: "We all know the real reason that the original trilogy characters weren't in Apollo Justice: they didn't want to animate everyone beating up Kristoph Gavin for the entire credits sequence. /j

But in seriousness, request for original trilogy characters taking some sort of vengeance on Kristoph. Because it's kind of sad that he had so many friends in the original trilogy and then in AJ Ema is the only one who sticks up for him and maybe I just like to see assholes get dunked on."

  wtf @ phoenix wright group chat

Maya: ok has anyone been able to get ahold of nick? this is ridiculous he can’t dodge me forever. I still have the keys to his place

Gumshoe: no luck here

Butz: same

Edgeworth: I talked to him.

Edgeworth: He said that he was fine, that he didn't need any help, and he needed to be alone.

Maya: no

[shitpostingkats]

(for the record. i love the aj trilogy. i'm not trying to dunk on anyone here. just calling it as i see it) one very funny thing about aa4 and aa5 and their active conversation with one another is aa4 is a game about defending criminals. all of whom are at least a little sympathetic but still. committed crimes (but it's still your job to defend them because they still deserve a fair trial and a shot at a better life). and its also a game that's like "hey evidence is cool and all. but like sometimes :) its not enough :) sometimes the law is wrong and sometimes you lie and you win and no one finds out you lied that's just for you to think about at night" (it wasn't even your choice. you didn't even know what you were doing). with that in mind. it's then really funny to play aa5 a game which is begging you PLEASE DO NOT DO BAD THINGS FOR THE SAKE OF A GREATER GOOD. PLEASE FOLLOW THE LAW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. YOU CAN FLIP COPS BUT THAT IS IT. and with that in mind it's absolutely hilarious to me that one of these games was sponsored by the japanese government and it WASN'T aa5.

Oh definitely. I personally wasn't very grabbed by aa4 as much as I would have expected, partly because I was spoiled by playing the great ace attorney games first, and apollo justice brings a lot of things to the table that get further refined in that duology. (Everyone should go play tgaa if they haven't already- *I am dragged forcibly off the soapbox*)

But I find it interesting that in aa4, you are defending criminals, and that's a very good thing. You are Apollo Justice. All your clients are criminals, yes, and through investigation get found out and are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. (Aside from Phoenix, cough cough). The Kitaki's leave the mafia and become honest buisnessfolk. Vera's forgeries are discovered, preventing further pieces from being sold on the black market. Machi actually hands himself over to the Japanifornia courts because it is viewed as more benevolent and trustworthy than returning to his home country. They're all sympathetic criminals, and the court is sympathetic to them in turn. The judicial system is painted as something that reforms people and finds answers.

Meanwhile in aa5, the courts are a mess. There's a whole case dedicated to blatantly showing how legal professionals are being trained to disregard actual facts and the one person trying to root out corruption is murdered. Your client goes behind your back to indict themselves because they don't trust the system to not blame an unrelated innocent party. Multiple times. Aura kidnaps and threatens half a dozen people as a direct response to knowing her brother is going to be executed for a murder he didn't commit. There's multiple discussions of not just copaganda, but actual propaganda for the courts as well. It makes everything about the judical system come of as shady, dishonorable, and in desperate need of reform.

Aa4, the game sponsored by the japanese government, is the story of how guilty people come into contact with the court system and stop doing crime, while aa5 is the story of innocent people coming into contact with the court system and immediately doing so much more crime.